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Readers Respond to McCain Commentary

Readers Respond to McCain Commentary
September 05
16:59 2018

During the week long memorial events for the late Senator John McCain, I wrote a commentary that praised his patriotism and fortitude during those long years of torture as a prisoner in Vietnam. I did, however, attempt to give a more balanced and realistic picture of the man whose career I had followed for more than thirty years – and a man I dealt with personally.

I received quite a few reader responses to that commentary. One suggested that it was unseemly of me to say anything bad about a person so recently deceased. It is not in good taste.

On the other hand, I have never known of such a cultural requirement. Yes, I know that old expression of never speaking ill of the dead, but I also don’t think that it has ever been the case. We not only speak ill of bad people, but in virtually every obituary I have read dealing with a prominent person, there were references to some of the low points in their life. If you do not believe that, just go to the Internet and check out all the reports following the death of Richard Nixon.

The majority of the responses I received were more critical of the nice things I wrote about McCain. One reader even challenged the stories of heroism, claiming his injuries were from the parachute jump, not torture, and that he did more than give his name, rank and serial number to the enemy. The reader wrote, “McCain was a lot of things, but war hero wasn’t one of them, by a long shot. “

Some alluded to an old controversy that McCain had colluded with the enemy and provided valuable information in return for medical treatment. Though the story has been refuted by McCain’s military friends, the facts are a bit fuzzy because McCain admitted to promising information for medical treatment, but he said he never intended to provide it. Whether he did or not is mired in controversy.

McCain said he thought he would die without medical help. He did sign a confession and make statements friendly to the North Vietnamese, but said he included language that would indicate the statements were made under duress – and they may have been. The controversies surrounding his wartime activities may never be resolved because both his admirers and his detractors maintain their views.

Another reader reminded me of how badly McCain treated his first wife, who was crippled from an auto accident. Instead of standing by her heroically, he started a string of affairs that eventually resulted in the marriage to his second wife. His heartless philandering was a matter of scandal at the time.

In my own commentary, I wrote about McCain being embroiled in a kick-back scandal as one of the “Keating Five.” And that he was not always the smiling and gracious person celebrated in those eulogies. Up to the time of his memorial events, McCain was described by friend and foe alike as having an explosive temper, a vindictive nature and a propensity for pettiness. That is a part of McCain history that the press buried before he was.

Most of the negative reaction was about the excessive coverage and exaggerated praise bestowed on McCain. They noted that presidents, generals and even other senators have never been afforded such effusive praise and such expanded news coverage.

They raise good questions. Why was there such an elaborate series of testimonial events? Why the extraordinary coverage?

A couple of readers who responded to those questions had the most likely answer. To put it bluntly, Democrats, anti-Trump Republicans and the #NeverTrump media used McCain’s lifeless body to bludgeon Trump. It was impossible to watch more than ten minutes of coverage on MSNBC and CNN without hearing negative comparisons to Trump. The reporters and parroting panelists picked up on every innuendo in the various speeches and eulogies to bring home a comparison – just in case the viewers did not get it.

Some of the McCain pettiness was on display although ignored by the media. His deathbed public request that Trump not be invited to participate in the funeral services was not gracious or forgiving – as they proclaimed McCain to be – but was petty. The Senator’s own posthumously released statement included some of those innuendoes that McCain had to know would be seized upon by the press to slam Trump. He was intentionally reaching beyond the grave to zing Trump. That is petty by definition.

Daughter Meghan McCain carried on the family pettiness when she, herself, used innuendoes that would draw negative reporting on Trump. Then there was that telling glare she directed to Vice President Pence when he extended the traditional condolences of the president. That was visual pettiness.

Even as speaker after speaker called on Americans to unify and become more civil in our political discourse, the planning and execution of the McCain funeral seemed only to reflect, if not harden, the lines of disagreement. It was less of a celebration of one man’s life and more of a condemnation of another’s.

As I noted in my version of a eulogy, McCain was generally a good man and a person who genuinely loved his country. But he had his faults and weaknesses. They were not highlighted in the eulogies and reporting, but the pettiness was on display for all to see. In producing a glossed-over Hollywood-esque version of his history, those giving testimony, the news media covering it all and the McCains, themselves, did a great disservice to the truth and to the memory of the man by creating divisiveness and controversy where there could have been universal appreciation and respect.

As a person who has had dealings with McCain, and a person who closely followed his career for more than 30 years, I did not recognize the beatified McCain that came across the screen. The endless eulogies not only myopically dwelled on his positive history – and there was a lot of it to respect – but it created a false reputation of the senator.

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Larry Horist

Larry Horist

Larry Horist is a conservative activist with an extensive background in economics, public policy and politics. Clients of his consulting firm have included such conservative icons as Steve Forbes and Milton Friedman, as well as the White House. He has testified as an expert witness before legislative bodies, including the U. S. Congress, and lectured at major colleges and universities. An award-winning debater, his insightful and sometimes controversial commentaries appear frequently on the editorial pages of newspapers across the nation. He can be reached at lph@thomasandjoyce.com.

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39 Comments

  1. Alan
    Alan September 06, 01:06

    Pettiness? How can you claim the McCain family pettiness when the most petty of all people resides in the most sacred office in the land and you protect him. By the way, I am a lifelong Republican who is sick of the sicko in the highest office in the land.

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  2. Bob Gummz
    Bob Gummz September 06, 16:55

    Oh, give it a rest. Your negativity is tiresome. McCain was a find example of a human being, a military man, and a Senator. To belittle his five years in a POW camp is beyond ridiculous. Try spending five years as a POW and see where your own breaking point might be. Most of us complain if dinner is late.

    McCain was respected by people on both sides of the aisle. You ask why he had such a lengthy farewell. It’s because people respected him that much. Each memorial event was filled to capacity. Obviously, a great number of people wanted to pay their respects to a man who could work with both sides of the aisle and who garnered respect from a great number of Americans.

    To say that this was planned as a way to express disdain for Trump is absolutely silly. Trump does enough on his own to garner disdain, and a growing number of us Republicans are starting to realize it. Someday, maybe you will, too.

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    • Gism
      Gism September 06, 17:30

      Bob, don’t be such an obvious jerk-off.

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    • Thomas Tully
      Thomas Tully September 06, 18:08

      Oh, YOU give it a rest…your animosity toward a REAL American…President Trump…is even more tiresome.
      …please, try reading about ‘the respect’ for mccaine…PRIOR to the election of President Trump. Read what the fake, phony and traitorous obama REALLY thought of ‘john’…
      …and in all the years of being in this country, I cannot recall ‘john’ even remotely working with the patriotic Americans side of the aisle…but ALWAYS siding with the fascists…now a report has surfaced from Egypt which claims ‘john’ was extremely ‘respected’ !!! by the muslim brotherhood…
      Imagine if the situation were reversed and it was President Trump’s admirer’s and family uttering the same innuendo’s about ‘john’…
      …and as for barack obama championing bi-partisanship…what a sick joke from the most blatant anti-American, muslim-brotherhood-loving racist ever to soil the White House…
      To say this was planned as a way to express disdain for President Trump is absolutely true…most of the phony, fake liars at that political rally…aka funeral…loathed ‘john’, but not as much as they fear and hate President Trump because he IS a patriot, and a growing number of Americans are starting to realize it. Someday, maybe you will too. (not holding my breath)

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    • Ed
      Ed September 06, 18:14

      You only have to go back a few years to see what they truly felt about him. I guess you don’t remember the presidential campaign.

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    • Talleration
      Talleration September 06, 19:00

      Aretha Franklin got about as much coverage as mccain. And there was no heroism there. Just good values, good examples, and an amazing voice. Who you know and the money you have is what dictates how your end of life celebration goes.

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    • Christian
      Christian September 06, 20:58

      Plain and simple, your just another IDIOT we can do without,mcdisaster mccain was petty,I hexed him everyday that his brain was sizzeling because he fooled me when I Voted for him when it turns out I voted for the same difference, mcain/osama, same difference

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    • Kathy S.
      Kathy S. September 07, 15:45

      You’re wrong. This article is spot on. The only thing that was tiresome was the how long the funeral proceedings lasted, the endless coverage, the never Trumpers and liberals’ effusive praise….I’m glad it’s over. RIP John McCain.

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    • Fed up with Trump's whining!!!
      Fed up with Trump's whining!!! September 11, 11:32

      Seriously???? You are whining because you think McCain was petty about not allowing Trump to try and make McCain funeral all about himself??? Every person in the world now knows that Trump cares about Trump and he can’t bear to see McCain get the respect he deserves and has earned. Trump is a coward with a little man complex because he knows on his death he will not be mourned like McCain but instead there will be dancing in the streets WORLDWIDE!!! I’m sure you and anyone else that believes your lies may spend a day or two mourning Trump but these people that have blindly followed Trump in his treason against this country will slink back into their self made lives of laziness and comfort in blaming everyone else for their own stupidity in following/believing him. Trump is an embarrassment to this country and to our allies. And you may want to reread what you wrote here because your words are very divisive and petty concerning McCain. McCain has every right to request that Trump not be invited to HIS OWN funeral. And your whining about that is disrespectful and unamerican!!! Your nose is bent out of shape because poor, petty,whining Trump’s is bent out of shape!!! Since you knew McCain so well were you invited to his funeral???? No?? Is jealousy a little closer to the reason for such a petty writeup attacking a REAL PATRIOTS funeral???
      I guess McCain was exercising his freedom of speech even during his funeral. (That’s the freedoms our constitution gives us.)
      McCain was given the funeral his friends,family and country believed he deserves. Your whining about it reeks of petty jealousy and also an obvious attempt to spread more lies for Trump’s dwindling base. Or are you hoping Trump will see this and maybe give you a job in his admin that you will be totally UNQUALIFIED for???
      NOTE: I was a hard core Republican for 35+ years. It didn’t take long to see how corrupt Trump was and that the Republicans would be able to get everything they wanted through his corruption and then how easily they can get rid of him. You’re extremely blind or maybe just greedy to not see the war that’s going on in the Republican party. It’s not the Democrats that are taking down the Republicans, It’s Trumps corruption/his ignorance that’s causing the wars going on within their own party. That’s what is going to destroy Trump, Trump will do it himself!! You may want to start using some intelligence instead of this pathetic pity party for Trump. You look almost as pathetic as Trump whining about McCains funeral. You seriously can’t go much lower than you have done here in this op ed. But hey cheer up I’m sure infotainer/actor Hannity from Fox Faux News will probably give you a couple of minutes of whine time, so Trump is sure to see you!!! Lol.. this is just so pathetic and embarrassing!!! The only thing you got right in this is the name Dimwit Politics!!!LMAO, You sure proved the name is right!!!Lol…

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    • Fed up with Trump's whining!!!
      Fed up with Trump's whining!!! September 11, 11:48

      Seriously Larry Horist???? You are whining because you think McCain was petty about not allowing Trump to try and make his funeral all about himself??? Every person in the world now knows that Trump cares about Trump and he can’t bear to see McCain get the respect he deserves and has earned. Trump is a coward with a little man complex because he knows that at his death he will not be mourned like McCain but instead there will be dancing in the streets WORLDWIDE!!! I’m sure you and anyone else that believes your lies may spend a day or two mourning Trump but these people that have blindly followed Trump in his treason against this country will slink back into their self made lives of laziness and comfort in blaming everyone else for their own stupidity in following/believing him. Trump is an embarrassment to this country and to our allies. And you may want to reread what you wrote here because your words are very divisive and petty concerning McCain. McCain has every right to request that Trump not be invited to HIS OWN funeral. And your whining about that is disrespectful and unamerican!!! Your nose is bent out of shape because poor, petty,whining Trump’s is bent out of shape!!! Since you knew McCain so well were you invited to his funeral???? No?? Is jealousy a little closer to the reason for such a petty writeup attacking a REAL PATRIOTS funeral???
      I guess McCain was exercising his freedom of speech even during his funeral. (That’s the freedoms our constitution gives us.)
      McCain was given the funeral his friends,family and country believed he deserves. Your whining about it reeks of petty jealousy and also an obvious attempt to spread more lies for Trump’s dwindling base. Or are you hoping Trump will see this and maybe give you a job in his admin that you will be totally UNQUALIFIED for???
      NOTE: I was a hard core Republican for 35+ years. It didn’t take long to see how corrupt Trump was and that the Republicans would be able to get everything they wanted through his corruption and then how easily they can get rid of him. You’re extremely blind or maybe just greedy to not see the war that’s going on in the Republican party. It’s not the Democrats that are taking down the Republicans, It’s Trumps corruption/his ignorance that’s causing the wars going on within their own party. That’s what is going to destroy Trump, Trump will do it himself!! You may want to start using some intelligence instead of this pathetic pity party for Trump. You look almost as pathetic as Trump whining about McCains funeral. You seriously can’t go much lower than you have done here in this op ed. But hey cheer up I’m sure infotainer/actor Hannity from Fox Faux News will probably give you a couple of minutes of whine time, so Trump is sure to see you!!! Lol.. this is just so pathetic and embarrassing!!! The only thing you got right in this is the name Dimwit Politics!!!LMAO, You sure proved the name is right!!!Lol…

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  3. 4chintson
    4chintson September 06, 17:46

    This was a good read on both sides of the coin here and it will be up to history to ultimately decided what’s Tru or false, I myself have moved on to reality.

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  4. Belle
    Belle September 06, 19:15

    I thought your article was balanced and right on. Let us not forget the grandiosity and self-importance of the man when he held us in suspense and then cast the vote that prevented the repeal of Obamacare, a purely vindictive vote that his beloved country is still paying for today.

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  5. Doug
    Doug September 06, 19:32

    It would be hard for anyone to say John Mccain was not a good american or did not love his country. He was not a good Republican. He had promised to change Obamacare and yet “thumbs down” when the vote came only because of his disdain for Trump.He did not put the American people first and certainly not his party. There is no great honor in being a Maverick. Show me a “Maverick” on the democrat side. They always vote 100% with their party.RIP John Mccain

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  6. Phil
    Phil September 06, 19:47

    I don’t know if he’s a hero or not, there are many other men and women in uniform I would surely call a hero without question, after all he didn’t choose to be caught by the enemy. It is like saying a driver on a bridge is a hero after the bridge collapses with him on it, if he knew the bridge would collapse that man would not be on that bridge. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be respected and remembered, but hero is not a fitting title for him. But that is up to others to decide, my problem with him was that people hold him up as sacred and irreproachable because he was a prisoner, and the fact that he saw himself as a hero was also tacky. When the president said he was no hero, he should have humbled himself and said I never called myself a hero, that would have gone a long way with me then I would have called him a hero. Instead he became like a bitter old man and his hatred was revealed towards trump and he began to make sure Trump failed especially with Obamacare. He was thinking of himself and not the rest of us because he wasn’t going to let Trump win that one. He had the deciding vote and now were all stuck with it. That is my true gripe with him. He went to his deathbed with hatred and bitterness and stubbornness in his heart, when he should have asked for peace and forgiveness, that is a sad way to die and says a lot about his true nature, and to itry to insult trump more he invites Obama and Clinton as a final mock and slap at him. Any respect I could have had for him died with him.

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  7. Phil
    Phil September 06, 19:57

    I don’t know if he’s a hero or not, there are many other men and women in uniform I would surely call a hero without question, after all he didn’t choose to be caught by the enemy. It is like saying a driver on a bridge is a hero after the bridge collapses with him on it, if he knew the bridge would collapse that man would not be on that bridge. I’m not saying he shouldn’t be respected and remembered, but hero is not a fitting title for him. But that is up to others to decide, my problem with him was that people hold him up as sacred and irreproachable because he was a prisoner, and the fact that he saw himself as a hero was also tacky. When the president said he was no hero, he should have humbled himself and said I never called myself a hero, that would have gone a long way with me then I would have called him a hero. Instead he became like a bitter old man and his hatred was revealed towards trump and he began to make sure Trump failed especially with Obamacare. He was thinking of himself and not the rest of us because he wasn’t going to let Trump win that one. He had the deciding vote and now were all stuck with it. That is my true gripe with him. He went to his deathbed with hatred and bitterness and stubbornness in his heart,

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  8. NorsKenR
    NorsKenR September 06, 20:21

    Actually, I found this commentary helpful. To start with, I had not been aware of the controversy about the facts of Senator McCain’s imprisonment and medical treatment. It sheds much more light about why President Trump may have said what he did about his not being impressed. Although even if that’s true, Trump could have found a much better way to say it. I don’t expect Trump to do everything perfectly right, but that counts as one thing that he didn’t. Unfortunately it was manifestly obvious before reading your words that the media was doing exactly what you mean. Like so many Americans, I grew up on the idea that a free press was needed to protect us from abuses of power by government. No one seemed to consider that the press itself might amass too much power and itself become the threat. The Russians had one of their unique black humor proverbs about the Soviet papers, whose names meant “Truth”, (Pravda), and “News”, (Izvestia): “In Izvestia there’s no Pravda, and in Pravda there’s no Izvestia.” We seem to be there ourselves, but without the convenience of the names to joke about it.

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  9. Swede-Irish half-breed
    Swede-Irish half-breed September 06, 20:38

    Bob, the mcCaine accolytes have had their say. It’s amazing what sins can be excused just because someone dies.

    Remember the god-like status of John F. Bobby and Ted Kennedy that crammed the airwaves when each of them died? vBut what did we learn of them some years afterwards?

    “Camelot” was a FRAUD.

    I rest my case.

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  10. Vicki
    Vicki September 06, 20:43

    I am saddened by what links Trump supporters will go to for him. To try to build their selves up by belittling others is disgraceful. Our country is more divided and hated filled than ever since Trump became potus. The truth is Trump will never be a man of honesty, decency, character, integrity and morals like McCain and others who loved this country more than life itself. There is no comparison. Stop with the horrible comments let Senator McCain Rest In Peace.

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    • Kathy S
      Kathy S September 07, 18:09

      Wake up Vicki. The liberals and liberal media divide this country when they don’t let the President do his job. They still can’t believe he won the election and refuse to let it go. You sound like one of them

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  11. thorlo6
    thorlo6 September 06, 20:48

    Bob you and the rest of the left are nothing but the scum of the earth. As for his 5 years as a POW, I have heard the testimony of men that were in that POW camp with him. They stated that he came in with his injuries from his plane crash not from being tortured. They called him the songbird because he sang like a canary violating the secrets act of the USA thereby committing Treason. He got food and treatment the rest of the prisoners would have loved to get. He violated orders to not land his plane on a aircraft carrier because the wind had too much shear. He attempted to land anyway, crashed the plane killing about 150 seamen and doing considerable damage to the ship. As a Senator he lied to the people of AZ time and time again that he was a staunch conservative just to get elected. Time after time he voted left wing Democrat over much of his career. When bills came up to open the records of Vietnam he used all his clout to get the bills quashed so his record would not be exposed to show how he commited treason. He was not a fine man, a good Senator, and definitely not a good military hero. He was anything but any of that. His anger, pettiness, and hatred made him what he was, the scum off the bottom of rocks.

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  12. Malcolm Boyd
    Malcolm Boyd September 06, 21:27

    Larry

    Thank you for your additional comments which provide additional perspective.

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  13. Joe
    Joe September 06, 22:13

    McCain was a rhino, to show that rhinoism continues on in his daughter/family their animosity toward The President/administration, and the applause seeking of the Dems/Obama they played to to. Meghan`s remarks exhibit how she fits with the harpies on the TV show “View.”

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  14. GARRY OWEN
    GARRY OWEN September 07, 00:34

    the story I got as a Vietnam Combat
    Veteran was that McCain after dropping of his bombs took a look see at low level flying and got shot down buy Vietnamese Bitches manning the anti=aircraft guns. He flipped in captivity and his former POWs did not think of him as special. He ditched his lst old lady and took up with his nurse who nursed him back to health. Further as a new Navy Senate Liaison Man. He set up Cong. Delagations for Overseas Junkets. He was known a Panama Jack and had his head up Senior Senator Barry Goldwaters ass and before he croaked gave McCain the nod to run for his Arizona seat. He needed big money and wrapped his star around a bleach blonde bimbo with money to finance his campaign in Arizona. He was an Oppurtinist and a Jerk.

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  15. K
    K September 07, 00:44

    Good job….thought all the “celebrations” were ridiculous. He was a senator who “served” way too long!

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  16. J M
    J M September 07, 00:44

    This is only the current version on the truth, not the real truth!

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  17. BJ
    BJ September 07, 01:00

    You are spot on!

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  18. Snowflake Hater
    Snowflake Hater September 07, 01:17

    You can and should pain for the family regardless of the type of man he was. To me he was a backstabbing swindler who was filled with petty thoughts and unfortunately the power to carry too many of them out. Was he a hero? No more or no less than an person who puts on a uniform and places themselves in harms way. From all I have read about his heroism I don’t believe a lot of it on both sides. I think his last years were a disgrace and he was a back stabbing POS who lied and did what he thought was best for him. A very petty guy who should have stepped down years ago. It’s funny how when he ran for President the press was at his throat, a lot of it his own doing. He was a very weak and bad candidate with no loyalty to anyone but him. The day he died the press was fawning all over him. Today’s media is nothing but order takers from corrupt fools ,not journalists. They are lazy POS with NO courage and are stupid petty cowards, just like McCain was for the last several years. He was a statesman in his own mind no different then the mob. Like I said I feel bad for his family but only for the loss of a loved one no matter what a POS he was in real life.

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  19. NorsKenR
    NorsKenR September 07, 01:56

    I appreciate your providing the additional information about the controversy that existed concerning Senator McCain’s experiences in Vietnam. It sheds a lot more light on President Trump’s possible reasons for his remarks on the campaign trail about whether he regarded McCain as a war hero. There were still much better ways to say it. I admire much about President Trump, but I don’t expect him to do everything right all the time, and that was one of those.

    I think you are completely right about what the media was doing this past weekend about the memorial events. Like many Americans, I grew up believing that a “free press” was absolutely essential as protection against government abuse of power. No one ever mentioned the possibility that the media professionals and owners themselves would develop so much power — or feel that they had — that it would be their abuses of power we had to fear.

    None of the Founding Fathers or later contributors to the Constitution, not even the inventors Franklin and Jefferson, could have imagined the broadcast media technology we have today. Had they been able, I think the First Amendment would have been different.

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  20. Carole
    Carole September 07, 03:31

    Politizing a funeral is disrespectful to say the least. Shame on those who did so!

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  21. ABUTOM
    ABUTOM September 07, 21:35

    THE SADDEST PHOTO I SAW WAS BUSH OBAMA AND CLINTON SMILING A BIG FU TO TRUMP. I FLASHED BACK TO HEARING BUSH SAYING TO CLINTON YEARS AGO. HOW IS YOUR LIBRARY DOING/ BUSH WAS A WARTIME PRESIDENT. CLINTON DROPPED IT IN HIS LAP. OBAMA PUT AMERICANS IN PRISON FOR FIGHTING AND LOYALTY TO THEIR COUNTRY. HE PAID IRAN TO KILL AMERICANS. HE WAS THE ESCAPABLE TRITOR. CLINTOM JUST SOLD US OUT FOR MONEY.I HOPE TRUMP PARDONS THE FT. LEAVENWORTH TEN.

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