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What Rosanne Barr said is awful. But Bill Maher said worse.

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What Rosanne Barr said is awful. But Bill Maher said worse.

What Rosanne Barr said is awful.  But Bill Maher said worse.
June 01
16:13 2018

For the record, I have never been a fan of Rosanne Barr’s comedy, rarely viewed episodes of her old show and have never seen any episode of her new show. With that being said …

Rosanne Barr’s tweets were not only awful, they were incomprehensible. There should be no disagreement on that point. I have not heard blacks being compared to simians since I hung around with Democrat precinct workers in my early Chicago days.

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I have known Valerie Jarrett from my civic activities in Chicago over many years. I was surprised to learn that she was black in the traditional African American sense of the word. As far as I knew, she was of Arab ancestry – Iranian to be specific.

The tweets were so outrageous that one instantly assumes that they must be the product of too much alcohol or drugs – and indeed Barr claimed to have been high on Ambien at the time. Before anyone should cast a stone, we all need to recall such occasion when we said or did things that were outrageous while under the influence of our mind-altering chemical of choice. There are very, very few among us who could claim never to have had such an experience – and they usually wind up with the title “liar” or “saint.”

The appropriate response is an abject apology, which Barr offered – but with CNN’s Don Lemon falsely reporting that she did not. Apologies do not make things “all better,” but they at least recognize the error in one’s ways.
Apologizing is all about civility and forgiveness – but what about the politicization of the tweets? Certainly, Barr gave grist for the mill for the false narrative that we are a pandemic racist society. Because of her private support of President Trump and the popularity of her Trump supporting television character, Democrats and the liberal press jumped on Barr’s tweets like felines on catnip — with maximum amplification, spin and glee.

Personally, I don’t blame them. Barr pitched a slow ball in the strike zone and they went swinging for the fences. I may have done the same myself in a reversed situation. There can be no argument, but that Barr provided an opportunity for the left to convert the incident into a broad-brushed smear against Trump, Republicans, conservatives and white people in general. She gave the false narrative of pandemic racism among the populace an undeserved credibility.

The incident brings up two fair questions. Are such lapses in etiquette and intelligence handled even handedly by the media and entertainment leaders – those folks in charge? ABC was highly praised for taking quick action in firing Barr and summarily canceling her show. Was that a good idea? Like it or not, her show was leading the ratings because it tapped into that half of the public who likes Trump and feels that most news and media misrepresent who they are. It is that mass of good Americans that the left constantly – directly or by intimation – mischaracterizes as ignorant, hateful and deplorable.

Would an official condemnation, suspension or counterbalancing corrective action been more appropriate? It is important to keep in mind that shutting down the show punishes more than 200 workers who had nothing to do with Barr’s tweets – actors, directors, camera operators, sound technicians and control room staff.
The termination may seem appropriate to many, but only if you accept the hypocrisy and unevenness when it comes to left-wing anti-Trump television personalities. The airwaves are filled with primetime comedians making the most outrageous and vulgar statements and displaying nasty visual images against Trump – including, oddly enough, a side-by-side comparison between Donald Trump and an orange orangutan by Bill Maher.

In fact, Maher made it a running joke offering Trump $5 million if he could prove he was not related to an orangutan. In one show Maher said:

“Donald Trump must immediately submit to DNA test to determine whether he is, in fact, the love child of a human woman and an orangutan from the Brooklyn Zoo. Look Donald, I am not saying that your mother was repeatedly f—ing an orangutan back in the 1940s. I don’t know if that’s true. I hope its not true. But, given your face, your physique, your intelligence level and, of course, your hair, the American people deserve some proof that your mother did not spend most nights in 1945 covering her body in banana oil, sneaking in the monkey cage and compulsively humping an orange haired ape.”

And Maher is still on the air.

To give that comparison an air of intellectual credibility, the press widely reported primatologist Jane Goodall’s earlier comparison of Trump to an aggressive chimp.

The backlash to the Barr firing – as opposed to any defense of her tweet – has filled social media with hundreds of examples of outrageous statements and imagery by the #NeverTrump media and entertainment personalities. Yet, none have been fired and damn few even censured.

I wonder if there will be a backlash against ABC. After all, it was their most popular show. There are bound to be a lot of disappointed people. A lot of Trump supporters may be angry at the hypocrisy. What if they boycott ABC like they successfully did the NFL? Would ABC be forced to return the show by popular demand – as happened to other shows in the past? Just asking.

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Larry Horist

Larry Horist

Larry Horist is a conservative activist with an extensive background in economics, public policy and politics. Clients of his consulting firm have included such conservative icons as Steve Forbes and Milton Friedman, as well as the White House. He has testified as an expert witness before legislative bodies, including the U. S. Congress, and lectured at major colleges and universities. An award-winning debater, his insightful and sometimes controversial commentaries appear frequently on the editorial pages of newspapers across the nation. He can be reached at lph@thomasandjoyce.com.

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  1. old guy
    old guy June 04, 09:25

    this is perfectly OK for him to say whatever he wants…after all he is a leftist know it all and is totally above any recourse….In my opinion he ought to be held more accountable than Roseanne was…

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  2. bravegirl
    bravegirl June 04, 10:57

    For the record I don’t care whether you are a fan or not. Would you rather the network condone what was said for a tv show that is for the moment “popular”? The public is fickle, and there will be more tv shows to take the place of this one. As a matter of fact, tv shows should not be so important to anyone that anything goes. Instead of making excuses for the behavior, or pointing fingers back “they say bad things too!”, let’s bring back something called consequences. Too many people think by saying “other people do wrong too” it makes what they did less wrong.

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  3. pjm19606
    pjm19606 June 04, 12:09

    Oh, Larry Horist (somehow your name is fitting!), you may have earned the title of the greatest equivocator. Only in the mind of a right-wing jackass like yourself could the statements of Barr and Maher be compared. Maher was the only one on point.

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    • SeattleWill
      SeattleWill August 27, 18:40

      Agreed. Bill Maher’s comments were much ch more offensive and he is much more deserving of being fired.

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    • MMA
      MMA September 28, 19:17

      Brilliant and fits you especially the really doctoral statement “jackass like yourself”

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    • Marine
      Marine November 10, 01:59

      PJMI9606. If Mr Horist is a “rightwing jackass” YOU MUST be a “leftwing nitwit”. Isn’t name calling fun?

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    • FairnBalanced
      FairnBalanced November 12, 22:43

      Thanks for defining YOUR absence of both class AND intelligence!!
      We’re aware that your kind live among us. Thanks for identifying yourself so we don’t step on you and your low standards

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    • GrammaMar
      GrammaMar February 03, 19:56

      You should know you insect picking, banana eating, tree swinging, jungle inhabiting, no nothing ignoramous. Maher taught you well.

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    • Papa Larry
      Papa Larry February 08, 20:26

      You sir are the jackass if you honestly believe that ignorant statement that you made. Like most left wing zealots you walk around with blinders on and see only what you want to see. MAGA!!!!

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    • Papa Larry
      Papa Larry February 08, 20:53

      Only a right wing zealot like yourself would fail to see the equal negative significance of the comments from both Maher and Barr. You sir are the jackass. Like all on the right you need to take off the blinders, lose the hatred and try to comprehend the world around you.

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  4. RJ
    RJ June 04, 13:39

    For an “award winning debater,” Mr. Horist’s what-about-Bill-Maher argument is both weak and a very poor analogy. It’s up there with the what-about-Samantha-Bee nonsense.

    First of all, this culture of whataboutism is inane and deceptive. It has no more validity than saying to a cop who stops you for speeding, “What about that guy?”

    It’s not about that guy. If you are arrested for murdering just one person, it would hardly get you released to bring up Richard Speck, who killed eight student nurses. You are still a murderer.

    Donald Trump does, in fact look like an orangutan. That is a personal insult, much like calling his daughter a C**t. While all women may be offended by the use of the Cword, there is no group of people who look like Donald Trump to take offense at his being compared to a primate.

    Roseanne didn’t just insult Valerie Jarrett and her firing was not about Valerie Jarrett. Roseanne insulted some 60 million black people living in America and every other black person in the world.

    She insulted the memories of every black person who wore the uniform of the United States.

    Most of all…MOST OF ALL, her tweet was inherently and blatantly racist. Racism may have been normalized in of our culture by a certain orangutan-looking person, there are still many of us who are particularly sensitive to racism, just as many of us are sensitive to issues of the #metoo movement.

    Roseanne’s explicit racism was the core impetus of her firing. Like many things, it was a bottom line decision. It’s also worth remembering that Disney has signed up for Black Panther 2 and 3 and this would not be a good time to offend that audience.

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    • JB
      JB June 08, 12:10

      Let’s see. If I put a photo of an orangutan next to that of Trump, it’s a personal insult. But, if I put a photo of an ape next to that of Jarrett I’ve insulted 60 million black people. Does that include Noemie Lenoir, Selita Ebanks, Tyra Banks, and other attractive black women. When children sing the Happy Birthday song and playfully end it with “you look like a monkey and belong in the zoo”, they are only allowed to sing this to whites, or yellows, …? In some eyes, Jarrett does in fact look like a monkey, and Maher insulted the 62 million ‘deplorables’ who elected Trump.

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    • Clyde
      Clyde August 17, 07:44

      Hey RJ…
      You said…”Donald Trump does, in fact look like an orangutan. What a “pendejo” you are. Just look yourself on a mirror and you will see the MOTHER OF ALL ORANGUTANS looking at you! Seriously!! Do it!!

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    • SeattleWill
      SeattleWill August 27, 18:42

      Ms.Jarrett is not black. She is Persian. Mr. Maher is a hateful individual who should most certainly be removed from the public airwaves.

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    • Jim Hall
      Jim Hall September 24, 19:31

      There are those who are so sensitive to what they perceive as racism that they blur the line between the real and imagined. They tend to run around like ‘Chicken Little’ crying “The sky is falling. The sky is falling.” In the process they lose any effectiveness they might have had and become nothing more than running jokes. Racism comes in many forms and disguises. To excuse Bill Maher on the basis of your argument is pure sophism.


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    • Robin Stielow
      Robin Stielow May 16, 18:57

      Well, Bill Maher looks like a jackass. I mean it, the donkey in SHREK. I can see it, can’t you RJ?

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  5. dpk54
    dpk54 June 04, 14:41

    Yeah…and no one said or did anything to the idiot woman comedienne who stated that she would like to see our President beheaded!!! Where was the outrage then…or the media stating that she would never be allowed on their networks ….I despise liberal hypocrisy!!!.I guess the truth hurts when these idiots are confronted with it!!!

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    • Roxy
      Roxy June 04, 16:46

      Are you serious? The bachlash was immediate and ferocious! She lost her long time gig with CNN,her TV dates cancelled,her shows cancelled. Her career all but gone…and the cause-a meme!! Not a consistent tweet to several people insulting them with Racist B.S. and then she continued tweeting all night long. The apology only coming after she was cancelled and then the excuses!! The same woman who’s Meme-dressed up as Hitler baking children cookies! We aren’t discussing that one,eh? There was nothing Racial about Bill M. who was sick of the 5 yrs + of DT calling out Obama’s Birth certificate and never apologizing! Instead -he becomes the Illegitimate prez-who will (if God is great) be in handcuffs for all the corruption,nepotism,damage,lies,assault,cheating,using our country to make millions,and ruining our relationship with our allies,and our countries reputation with them.

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      • None
        None June 24, 02:03

        Thank you

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      • Swede48
        Swede48 June 25, 19:31

        Typical of the bawling Dems who can’t believe their Precious Hillary lost. This man has done more to pull this country back from disaster than any of the last 6 8 10 etc worthless leaders we have had in office. Change will hurt, but at least our grand children won’t have to speak Chinese.

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        • Deedums
          Deedums September 07, 19:32

          Where have you been?? You have so much incorrect information. U need a fact cker!!

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        • davidlaing
          davidlaing January 12, 21:10

          Hear, hear!

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        • Bev
          Bev April 07, 20:27

          Thank you, I totally agree with you.

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          • Papasiera
            Papasiera October 02, 00:19

            U certainly R A aNus
            I have always wondered how you libtards breath with your heads so far up your ass.
            The lack of oxygen to your undersized excuse for brains explains it all. All it takes to confuse a liberal is tell them the truth.

  6. uranus
    uranus June 04, 15:11


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  7. Bill
    Bill June 04, 15:49

    A major recourse for Conservative action against outrageous Liberal media bias would be to organize a movement for Conservatives to individually contact the sponsors of the Liberal
    shows and advise that no longer would the sponsers products be purchased
    The only method to curtail some of the bias is simply negatively effecting the bottom line of media, specifically the major TV networks.

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    • 3Doglady
      3Doglady December 04, 23:29

      Please can someone produce a list of the advertisers on “The View” We need to start boycotts asap.

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    • Rog
      Rog December 14, 02:21

      You NAILED it Bill. As a lifelong Conservative, why do I always feel I have to apologize for my core beliefs?

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    • davidlaing
      davidlaing January 12, 21:13

      So, do it!

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    • Trumpisatraitor
      Trumpisatraitor January 19, 16:05

      Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. What a joke. After the birther shenanigans you have NOTHING to complain about. Trump is a menace to our society and our democracy and we are all waiting to see him finally pay for all his crimes, before and during the election. He is not a legitimate President.

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    • Trumpisatraitor
      Trumpisatraitor March 13, 14:36

      BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH what an apt name to this moronic publication and all the deeply disturbed hypocrites who believe any of this divisive drivel. You are all like President Trump, living in a dream world. SO VERY SAD indeed.

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  8. NightHawk9
    NightHawk9 June 22, 18:10

    Whenever an accident occurred in the circus – an aerialist falling from the high wire or an elephant stepping on a trainer – the call would go out to “send in the clowns” as a diversion. All Maher needs is the bulbous nose and over sized shoes.

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  9. Mia
    Mia July 03, 16:40

    Russia put that fat pig in office (apology to pigs). He is a bully like he was in the debates. When he followed Hillary all around behind her, I would have turned around and smacked him. He is so ignorant. He said on National TV that if Russia was listening, can you help the US find the lost emails of Hillary Clinton. Then bringing 6 of Clinton’s ex-girlfriends to the debates, he looked stupid then also. Like he hasn’t slept with the whole world and married 3 times. Golden shower anyone. You must be very young and naive. He thinks he is God’s gift to the world, the old fart. When my grandfather was his age, we wouldn’t let him have the remote to the TV, let alone the buttons to blow up the world. The USA is in crisis with the immigrant children and he goes to see his buddy Putin to see what to do about it. Don’t punish the children for the sins of the father. You must be an athiest. Speak Chinese, my foot. Trump has done nothing but divide the world. He wants to please the KKK and his plan is to MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN. I am white and 76 years old. Get a life.

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  10. Ann
    Ann July 07, 17:14

    You are fullllll of you know what!!!
    And Dump Trump will NEVER be my president!!!

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  11. Fedup W. Fakenews
    Fedup W. Fakenews September 06, 16:20

    Disgracing President Trump by posting his picture next to the portrait of Michelle Obama…SHAME

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    • Colo
      Colo September 24, 18:47

      I was thinking the same thing. I saw some pictures of Michelle (Michael) where she (he) looked like a monkey.

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  12. Graeme
    Graeme September 19, 08:21

    “A major recourse for Conservative action against outrageous Liberal media bias … ”
    Actually, a better recourse might be if both great parties slow down and listen. Your country is called the United Sates of America. My country, Canada, and the world, need and want a powerful respected America. America is great. She will be greater yet, if more Americans use their two ears and listen to each other. Every comment that doesn’t try and heal is a comment that tries to divide your country.
    Which side are you on?

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  13. Big Deac
    Big Deac September 20, 18:39

    Donald “Jackass”. Trump is the dumbest millionaire in captivity. You have no right to compare a primate to that horses ass. He would not know his ass from his elbow. He is definitely not smarter than a fifth grader….

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  14. Hokanut
    Hokanut November 09, 22:30

    Mahre who?

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  15. I hate B S
    I hate B S January 08, 20:32

    You need to know the difference between an Arab and an Iranian if you are well educated enough to give your insightful information to the public.
    I can imagine what other ill informed facts you are voicing your expert opinion about.

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  16. jay
    jay January 27, 20:22

    My cocern is about a president that is doing the exact things Dictators do to take over a country and turn it into a country where evil becomes the right thing to do. He demands his way, he threatens if he does not get it, taking 800,000 people out of work to get his 60 billion dollar wall is only one threat he has made. No Fed money for cities that want to keep the DACA people here, angry at judges that do not hand down verdicts he agrees with, are some of the ways he wants to take over what we think and believe in. Why people do not see this is beyond do. His favorite leaders are putin and the Korean dictator, he loves him Trump says. Why not? They have complete control over their citizens, an I see Trump as wanting that over us

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  17. rich
    rich February 01, 19:40

    omg bill maher is showing his baby picture go back where you belong

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    PAULCHEN February 01, 20:52


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  19. Jon
    Jon February 07, 17:26

    Maher is a genius. Have you no sense of humor. Have you no shame. Watch and listen to him. He is brutally aware of the damage the current administration is doing to your country and your place in the world. Shame on you.

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  20. Tom
    Tom February 07, 19:56

    To make vile comments about someones Mother without even a hint of proof iindicates the individual is sick. He finds it necessary to get attention in the worst way to keep his paycheck big from supporters of the Looney left. I join him now in wondering if he is trying to make up for his possible prostitute mother and a JackAss contributor of his DNA

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  21. Mike
    Mike February 11, 00:36

    To maher being closely related to a monkey is the same as atheists believe. Because we share 97% of their DNA doesn’t mean we are related in ANY way SHAPE or FORM. mr. maher should leave his science knowledge or lack thereof in his office, this only PROVES how STUPID he really is

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  22. voltaire
    voltaire March 18, 03:15

    Тhanks for fіnally talking about >What Rosanne Barr said is awful.
    But Bill Maher said worse. – DіmWit Politics <Liked it!

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  23. Bill
    Bill July 03, 19:24

    Bill WHO?

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  24. Glid51
    Glid51 July 10, 18:46

    Still waiting for Donnie’s proff. Sure fits him!!

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  25. PalomarJack
    PalomarJack December 01, 18:05

    Maher is just another regressive left wing yesman of the media priesthood that espouses what is decreed by the left wing regressive “Lords on High” in DC to the left wing, regressive knuckle-dragging drones. Pathetic.

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